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MeanChrisceltic |
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NoMercyMaster2001 |
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Nope trust me this is the end of the line for VW and the VXW brand altogether, unfortunate really but inevitable since VXW always had a not so good reputation
to it for various reasons and this attempt to build a new roster just didn't work out at all so it's time to abandon ship one way or another and start
over elsewhere. SO, with this mind then if Mongo will approve it me and Graff are about to launch a replacement fed (Chaotic Wrestling) under the XHF name and
with no major connections back to VW this really has a great shot at succeeding with twice as good storyline quality and no real liabilities on the admin team
like the current owner has been to date. Especially if we can keep certain key talent like Doc, MGK, Charlie V., and Quake in place for CW soon enough then
yeah we have an excellent shot to keep right on going and not lose much momentum at all for XHF's sake, but however things turn out for actual roster
talent me and Graff will absolutely be committed to making the fed last and not making many of the same mistakes VXW made for a third straight occasion...
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MeanChrisceltic |
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no thanks, I'll go down with the ship
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RobArnold |
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Doc,do you still have my mobile number? Give me a call, i'll fill you in.
I'mabout all day saturday, so yeah, give me a bell, ********* in case you lost it.
Last Edited By: MeanChrisceltic
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MeanChrisceltic |
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fuck, i spent my last ten quid on skunk last night so i cant put any credit in my phone, is there any way you can contact me instead?
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RobArnold |
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I'll be online later, in the mean time no, if i dont see you online i'll call you around 9, assuming youre not going out tonight.
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NoMercyMaster2001 |
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no thanks, I'll go down with the shipYour own misguided choice then I suppose, just don't say I didn't warn you when the place is in shambles JUST like the first time around, and the ironic part is that neither me or anyone else will even have to raise a single finger to make this happen either, it'll happen because the basic premise of the fed was somewhat ill-conceived from day one, and much more importantly because Rob's own ego was far too inflated to even see what's right in front of him already, he literally had a golden opportunity (he knows exactly what this is) waiting on a silver platter to salvage our future if he'd simply been wise enough to take advantage, but no, alas just like always he had to be completely stubborn about things and as a result he has primarily himself to blame and no one else for what happens next now...
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MeanChrisceltic |
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give me a call whenever you can im in all night and high bro
i'll reply to you soon nmm im just too high right now ![]()
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RobArnold |
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Mhm, so saying i like an idea but want to tweak it is my fault? I wanted to change 10% of an idea because it wasnt a good idea.
You took your ball and went home NMM, good riddance mate.
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MeanChrisceltic |
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ok nmm as you can now see this has been moved from the staff room to ooc and youve been de admined so you cant cover up your stupid bullshit and graff can
reply too if he wants :)
ok so i heard what happened. Rob was ill and couldnt post the show on time, and because he rejected your storlyine proposal to have seifer become commish you would rather say that vxw is dead and blame rob instead of MOVING YOUR STUPID FUCKIN ASS and doing somethign yourself. your right, this is very like the first time around, cause back then you killed VXW did with all your stupid show editing and all that shit, and I guess it really pained you to see rob admitting to regretting appointing you admin when he posted the closure announcement. I know you too well for you to even deny that you werent hurt deep down inside and the beauty of it was it was really true. Your right with something else too, this placed was doomed at the start, from the moment i heard you were and admin and told mongo that with you on board the fed was sure to die. not that everyone didnt know that already however. Which reminds me, why the fuck did you write a beatdown from doc and rage in the show??? DID YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION??? You stupid cocksucker, I already have an angle planned with someone who will be willing to rp more than 3 times before he gives up. I dont want anything to do with your stupid character that you pretend you actually are because your life is so fuckin shitty. And graff, I really guess I was wrong to expect you to have been bigger than this. I cant speak for velez and quake but I'm not joining your fed and im pretty sure greg is much more intelligent than that too. ![]()
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RobArnold |
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To clarify, this WAS a post in the war room, but me and Doc decided the post was worthy for all to see and make their own decisions.
We also believe NMM wouldnt be able to see thos post in the war room, as subsequent to this, i assume he has stepped down fro the cause. Which was of course his choice, i'mgutted he's done this, it really is a shame. I couldnt help being ill, i couldnt help being diplomatic. I'm sorry to all who i may have upset with being ill, but i think if you can't accept being bed ridden as an excuse, then you need to look at yourself in the moral mirror.
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NoMercyMaster2001 |
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ok so i heard what happened. Rob was ill and couldnt post the show on time, and because he rejected your storlyine proposal to have seifer become commish you would rather say that vxw is dead and blame rob instead of MOVING YOUR STUPID FUCKIN ASS and doing somethign yourself. your right, this is very like the first time around, cause back then you killed VXW did with all your stupid show editing and all that shit, and I guess it really pained you to see rob admitting to regretting appointing you admin when he posted the closure announcement. I know you too well for you to even deny that you werent hurt deep down inside and the beauty of it was it was really true. Your right with something else too, this placed was doomed at the start, from the moment i heard you were and admin and told mongo that with you on board the fed was sure to die. not that everyone didnt know that already however. Which reminds me, why the fuck did you write a beatdown from doc and rage in the show??? DID YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION??? You stupid cocksucker, I already have an angle planned with someone who will be willing to rp more than 3 times before he gives up. I dont want anything to do with your stupid character that you pretend you actually are because your life is so fuckin shitty. And graff, I really guess I was wrong to expect you to have been bigger than this. I cant speak for velez and quake but I'm not joining your fed and im pretty sure greg is much more intelligent than that too.Wow bitter much? Incredibly sad though that you had to go to all that trouble of first off making this a public board issue which really just exposes your true unprofessionalism as an admin in the first place now doesn't it? Then to write up a ton of utterly asinine excuses and accusations about everything in order to make yourself feel better in the process, pretty dispicable to say the least. But make no mistake that I've already said what I've had to say in this post and I DO stand by every last solitary word of it plain and simple, so if you really want to take things so personally and hold such petty grudges then good riddance indeed and trust me there's not even enough of a "door" left to this sinking ship of a fed to hit me on the way out either...
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MeanChrisceltic |
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hahahaha its funny "accusations" and "excuses" all I did was tell the truth and anyone who was admin the first time around can back me up
on that and even people at xhf so no matter how many big words you use to try and paint cover ups its not gonna work. nobodys bitter. Why would I possibly be
bitter? I wasnt even here. It had nothing to do with me. Im not bitter, I'm just telling the truth i aint holdin any grudges with a guy half way across the
world to whom sunshine is a treat for tidyin your room
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RobArnold |
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I think i speak for Doc when i say we're not feeling bitter, nor really trying to feel better.
I mean we're upset that you've acted this way, and we put it publuic, because like i said, we felt you need hear it, plus we also felt that people needed to understand what you're up to. Let's be fair NMM, you can tell people what you like but there's two sides to each story. This is it. Like it or lump it kiddo.
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To basically clear any bad air that has come my way, because of what has happened... I see that you are having a bitter reaction to NMM, and what he did
without the permission of Carlos or you, Doc, and I can understand the frustration with that. I will say that NMM was in the wrong with that. He has admitted
to myself, and Carlos, that he was in the wrong with that, and he did talk to Carlos. I had no part in that. We were discussing storylines, but I was going to
try to go around to get the approval of everyone beforehand... and I didn't ask NMM this directly, but I did assume that he already had all their
permission. I was shocked when Carlos came to me and said that he is apparently being forced into a storyline. I had no say in this.
Now, when it comes to the choices that were made to say destroy this e-fed, I had no intentions for that. I had no say in the talks that were going on with Rob. Honestly, if you want me to get my AIM logs, I save all my logs - I was playing Rock Band at the time that I was talking to NMM, and he said he was going to start a chat. The invite must have not gone through, because I never got invited to any chat. So I had no say in what was going on. Since Mongo had originally told me about his plan to let the XHF become a larger place, having multiple organizations within it, I was planning of the re-opening of an e-fed. I didn't just decide it because VW opened. The day I went to Mongo and said that I would take up his offer to create one, he said that Rob had already taken up the offer... so I said fine, and I would go RP over here and open my e-fed at a later day. I told Mongo I would probably open it up after the end of the summer season, and after I have a job, so I can balance my schedule out. I've thought about waiting until December to open it. With a lot of my storylines being dismissed, and I'm being given no word as to why because I am making the mistake of letting someone else speak for me while I'm doing my own thing, it did tick me off. So I decided not to wait. If people want to come over to CW, they are more than welcome. If they want to go down with VW and keep pointing the finger at me, then go for it. I had no intentions of the closing of VW. I had many storylines that I was going for out of this, and Doc, we even had one that we wanted to get going. I wanted to get my e-fed going to give VW some competition, and hopefully boost both to be better. Now for the point that will probably make you all hate me. Yes, Rob was bitching at me the other day... I blocked him for a second, I'm not going to lie about it. I don't want to hear bitching. I don't want to see these fingers being pointed at me and accusing this of being part my fault - it is not in any way, shape, or form my fault. It was mainly the fact that the very first show was two days late, and I can't think of an excuse for it to be late with the condensed form that Rob is using here, that I will most likely use for a little while until I can get all my time settled, and get enough writers. I've said it to Mongo, there is no excuse for it to be late. If you're sick, only getting up to use the bathroom, then there's something wrong with you more than just being ill, because I can't, for the heart of me, lay down an entire day, just watching TV and sleeping. I will get up, I will see who's online, and hey, while I'm there, I will write the whole fucking show! So, Rob, has anyone else been on your MSN account through those days you weren't online, because I could have sworn I saw you sign on MSN and start listening to AFI. I just don't see how you can't find the time to get online for five minutes just to write a summarized version, as well as NMM's match, which we've already discussed the ending was wrong and nobody involved had previously agreed to it, and get it posted. I don't know. It's that simple to me, I don't see how anyone can lay in bed all day. |
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MeanChrisceltic |
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i think you need to read every post again graff and re write that before you accuse anyone of saying that you are trying to close down vxw
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XiledSanity |
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You'd have to have had the IM conversation between Rob and I, to know that I have been accused. Even if it doesn't say on this board of it. Rob accused
me straight out in an IM, and I think he was in the wrong for it... so I would expect an apology, or something.
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RobArnold |
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I'm not appologising to you.
NMM shouldnt have said your name so much. You were in the wrong position at the wrong time. You owe ME an appology mind. How DARE you say that about me? I'd like to see you write a show when youre throwing up. Fact. I was away from friday to monday. Fact. I then stayed in bed from monday till tuesday afternoon because i was throwing up. Fact. I went online later to tell Mongo the score, before practically falling asleep on the laptop, and i had work the next day So graff, hope you can look in the mirror, because to accuse me of that was pretty damn shocking.
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XiledSanity |
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No, I will not apologize to you. And I have written matches while throwing up. Back with the credible e-fed of the XHF, when I was writing most matches
there... I've written while being sick. I've written with a garbage can next to me just incase I started to throw up.
So I think that you are just making some excuses now. What takes you five minutes to do, what would take anyone five minutes to do, you couldn't take that five minutes between your rounds of puking to just write a brief summary. You want to get something done? You can get it done, nothing can stop you. Obviously you didn't want to get it done. |
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MeanChrisceltic |
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what does that say about the totally not ill NMM?
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NoMercyMaster2001 |
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Not to drag this foolishness out any further but for the record it "says" that I DID the one part I was strictly requested by Rob to do in the show
this week, and otherwise he made it crystal clear from day one that he wanted to take everything into his own hands for getting it written so I was more than
happy to let him do just that, not my fault, nor Graff's, nor yours Doc, not Mongo's, not anyone else's that Rob gave no notice ahead of time in
the admin forum OR on AIM that he wouldn't be able to get it finished ON TIME. Regardless though my own issue has much more to do with Rob's general
manipulation as head admin rather than Ascendancy being late, this is just a huge huge problem that's been gradually building up for quite some time now
and he should've known that sooner or later it would come back to bite him squarely in the ass that he constantly has to control everything and not let the
shows be a true TEAM effort by ALL admins instead of just himself and THEN everyone else...
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